Dave Samson – Leadership, Professional Standards & Four Decades of Aviation Experience

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00:00:55: My name is Stefan, I'm one of your hosts.

00:00:58: But with me our only professional podcaster here the only person who knows what's going on is Jürgen!

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00:01:14: fulfilling a lot of beautiful vacation dreams all over Europe in the moment.

00:01:19: And yeah, I mean for all new listeners Stefan is professional pilot as i just said and I am Jörg Reiss and I coach pilots in mental performance with special focus on assessments simulator sessions training environments.

00:01:36: And we are aviation questions, weekly broadcasts focusing on not only real world aviation but also flight siming But today On Real World Aviation and a special kind of real-world aviation as which just discussed in private conversation In front of this intro.

00:01:55: Stefan.

00:01:57: Yeah exactly so.

00:01:58: Today We Are Dwelling in the World of Corporate Flying which is something I know nothing about, of spending my entire career at the airlines.

00:02:07: And it was really interesting to listen to the interview.

00:02:11: so Jürgen conducted the interview.

00:02:13: i wasn't available but i listened to afterwards.

00:02:16: and yeah you're a really interesting completely different world like when when he said, I've been flying with this guy for one and a half years.

00:02:26: That's crazy!

00:02:28: You know you fly the same person every day?

00:02:31: Uh...I don't know people that i just flew in with a guy who has been at the company three years ago but have never seen him before.

00:02:40: so completely different environment.

00:02:43: So again..you did interview.

00:02:45: please introduce us to our guest today.

00:02:49: Today's guest is Captain Dave Samson, a highly respected corporate aviation professional whose career spans more than four decades in both military and corporate aviation.

00:03:01: With over twelve thousand accident-and incident free flight hours extensive international experience and leadership roles including Chief Barlett he offers perspective shaped by professionalism sound judgment aviation.

00:03:19: I think this was correct Stefan, wasn't it?

00:03:23: It sounded very good yes!

00:03:26: Yeah i'm glad you do these because uh...I don't know.. Talk nonsense.

00:03:31: Anyway, it was a really cool interview like you already said.

00:03:36: of course It's not just corporate.

00:03:37: he started off in the military In The Navy to be more precise so He will also Be talking To us about that how what That Was Like?

00:03:47: to fly there and How he got into Naval Aviation And then his transition into the world of corporate flying and what that was like at the beginning, lots of interesting stuff.

00:04:06: You know, for me it was always the airlines that attracted me but I do know there are a lot people out in corporate flying and they absolutely love it!

00:04:16: They have no intentions to ever come into the airline.

00:04:20: so who knows maybe some of you out there thinking would be cool to fly a Gulfstream or something?

00:04:26: And i'm sure this is because interesting insights.

00:04:33: And I also think some wisdom, let's call it this and good tips on how the industry works

00:04:44: Absolutely, and speaking of his special background also military etc.

00:04:50: No spoiler here but we have a really really special photo And it will be two days after the podcast is online on Sunday's end of August I guess?

00:05:03: Yes it is!

00:05:05: Sunday is the third east.

00:05:06: It will be two days afterwards on LinkedIn in the afternoon.

00:05:12: Yeah, my own personal professional linked-in channel site whatever you call it turned into so to say our professional social media outlet of a podcast.

00:05:25: I hope i get all the vocabulary here correct Stefan but there is yeah There's a LinkedIn version and very special photo of Captain Samson.

00:05:39: and this photo I think it's also the thumbnail of the YouTube version.

00:05:45: Of todays podcast because Stefan is not only a professional ballad he has also running highly successful, high-end quality flight simming podcast FS Clips as a side channel.

00:06:00: So Stefan is not only there, sort of super active in the moment but even on how he's running his second podcast project.

00:06:11: this is Aviation Quest Podcast and here you can listen to the audio track.

00:06:15: so the podcast.

00:06:18: there are some flying going on.

00:06:21: I think the thumbnail by Dave Samson's end-outs.

00:06:28: Is this correct?

00:06:30: Yeah, I always want people to see who they're listening too.

00:06:34: so yeah just if you've never listened before.

00:06:39: we obviously an audio podcast but also have a YouTube channel and we decided that If You Come On To YouTube there should be something for you when looking at the broadcasts as since You should be looking at us, because that would very boring.

00:06:58: We decided there will always a real world flight running in the background.

00:07:03: I recorded on Microsoft Flight Simulator.

00:07:06: Shall i just go straight and tell people what they are looking for today.

00:07:09: which flight?

00:07:11: Perfect!

00:07:14: A running joke.

00:07:15: we don't forget it.

00:07:16: And this time straight to it Stefan.

00:07:19: Yeah, because I just remembered.

00:07:21: So today we are flying with Brussels Airlines and we're flying from Manchester to Brussels And we using... Because Brussels Airlines is famous for their special liveries.

00:07:33: They have some amazing cool-looking aircraft.

00:07:37: so it was actually quite hard For me to pick one of them But if you watch it You'll see It's a really really cool looking aircraft.

00:07:46: Yeah, nice flight.

00:07:47: Nice airline and great livery in the background!

00:07:53: What do you think Stefan?

00:07:55: Should we head right into... yeah And Doc have some conversation after the podcast but should we start right into a part of this podcast?

00:08:09: Let's get started so people can listen to the interview again.

00:08:13: it was conducted by Jürgen and afterwards You can and I will be back with some final words.

00:08:20: And so yeah, we'll hear you on the other side.

00:08:24: So without further ado let's get started with the main interview.

00:08:30: Captain Dave Sampson it is my great honor to welcome you to Aviation Quest C. We are truly privileged to have your on-the show sir Thankyou.

00:08:41: Well thank you for having me.

00:08:44: Yeah, I mean it's really yeah.

00:08:47: It is as i said its an honor to get us started.

00:08:51: What a typical flying week look for you these days.

00:08:57: These days well depends on whether are talking about the winter time or summer.

00:09:03: We're not very busy in the Summer.

00:09:07: Our boss likes to stick close-to home and plays golf.

00:09:13: He's got a trip coming up on Sunday, but I won't be part of that because i'll go into my semi-annual recurrent training.

00:09:24: But in the wintertime we head down from New York to Florida just about every week.

00:09:31: he spends his weekend there playing golf and then comes back up to new york during.

00:09:42: Yes, I have the same client and he does.

00:09:46: He does travel all over the world for business.

00:09:48: we do a lot of trips to the Middle East Saudi Arabia Abu Dhabi Kuwait city but lately We haven't been going there because of the issues in region.

00:10:03: Yeah certainly But how much off your work maybe?

00:10:07: A lot of listeners might be interested happens outside the cockpit Dave.

00:10:13: Well, for me we're I'm what they call the client aviation manager or cam at my company for My particular Client.

00:10:26: and So that means.

00:10:28: I'm in The boss of.

00:10:29: i have my small Air Force Of Two pilots myself And one other colleague One mechanic and one aircraft.

00:10:38: so I am, i'm the boss and I make uh... decisions regarding what trips will fly.

00:10:47: And what trips we'll not fly if a client asks to go someplace.

00:10:53: that's unacceptable runways too short or weather is bad something like that.

00:10:58: but so I made these decision also you know decide at time when got the job you know, who I was going to fly with the other pilot and interviewed him.

00:11:17: And brought him on board.

00:11:18: we've been flying together now for about a year-and-a-half daily.

00:11:23: decisions.

00:11:25: i have to approve all of the invoices fuel in voices handling When we go overseas, just about everything that pertains to our particular trips I have in some way or another get involved.

00:11:50: Understand!

00:11:51: Let's stick with the flying.

00:11:53: What do you still enjoy most about flying after more than four decades?

00:11:58: In aviation it is incredible

00:12:01: You know, I enjoy just about everything.

00:12:04: I do particularly like the takeoffs and landings.

00:12:08: that really gives you a chance to showcase your skill.

00:12:13: I find a corporate jet right now.

00:12:19: for the last twenty-five years or more we tend.

00:12:27: I use the automation quite a bit, so it's fun.

00:12:33: And i love looking out of window and seeing scenery below in cloud formations or thunderstorms when we are flying into synody.

00:12:41: but its all exhilarating to me.

00:12:45: But I have say that best is landing on takeoffs.

00:12:50: Sure!

00:12:51: Seeing for almost every pilot.

00:12:54: After this current, so to say the overview about your current situation let me take you back to your beginnings.

00:13:02: How did aviation first enter your life Dave?

00:13:06: Well it's hard for me remember exactly when I started looking up and seeing airplanes but my father was a radar observer uh, the equivalent of a radar intercept officer on the P- Sixty One Black Widow during the Second World War.

00:13:28: And when he came back after the war He decided to get his pilot's license—his private pilots' license.

00:13:35: and so he was doing that in the sixties when I was growing up Uh...and he used to take me flying and i was immediately hooked.

00:13:43: The first time I went uh..I went up for a ride with him.

00:13:50: I took a few flying lessons when i was probably sixteen years old, but.

00:13:58: I didn't have enough money to keep going with it.

00:14:02: so then that went on the college and at the time ROTC was still familiar or who's still required for students in United States because the Vietnam War is still going on.

00:14:18: So I chose Navy ROTC and then they had a field trip to Pensacola, Florida where all the navy flight training is done.

00:14:28: And so i went on that trip and they gave us a ride in T-two Buckeye which was the training jet at the time... ...and again I was hooked on naval aviation.

00:14:38: from that point on it was uh....I just couldn't imagine doing anything else.

00:14:47: So this was also the start, so to say indirectly of your professional career or directly better-to-say.

00:14:55: Yes I think so!

00:14:57: Uh...I did.

00:14:58: my four years at The University uh..was commissioned as a ensign in United States Navy and then went almost immediately on to flight school a small preliminary tour in Jacksonville, Florida where I had a chance to sample the different aircraft that would be available for me to fly.

00:15:23: In naval aviation...I was stationed at P-III patrol wing.

00:15:30: they were flying the P-II Orion which is ...the civilian equivalent of the Lockheed Electra.

00:15:39: uh, four-engine turboprop.

00:15:41: I used to go flying with those guys had a chance to fly with the tactical jet people and flew the A-four in the A seven with them In...in the back seat of course And also the helicopter community.

00:16:10: If I had a choice, that's what i wanted to do.

00:16:14: Dave since your career spans both military and corporate aviation What would you say?

00:16:22: did each environment teach?

00:16:24: in the natural certainly?

00:16:26: I think this answer could lead into a book

00:16:29: or...

00:16:31: Well That is good question.

00:16:38: The shipboard environment is a very hazardous environment.

00:16:42: So I think that you know, That just...I really had to pay attention the detail.

00:16:51: We had to Pay attention to changing sea and weather conditions when we were onboard ships And I also, in the Navy.

00:17:10: I did a tour as flight instructor.

00:17:12: so In that realm being prepared for the flight Being sure That i was going to be able To give my student The very best training available Was probably important there and then In today's world where Im corporate pilot flying all over You just have to make sure all the details

00:17:39: are

00:17:42: covered.

00:17:43: Make sure that you've got the permits to fly over such and such a country, or you have landing rights... There's a lot of detail I didn't have to do when i was back in the military.

00:17:57: it was more well-details but in different sense.

00:18:03: Does that answer the question?

00:18:06: Absolutely.

00:18:07: I think different words, difference challenges.

00:18:12: this is what my take away.

00:18:15: Yes exactly

00:18:17: Yeah.

00:18:17: and What motivated your transition into corporate aviation?

00:18:22: Well i was retiring from The Navy back in the late nineties And My wife at the time I asked her.

00:18:34: Well, what do you think i should do?

00:18:36: She says well You're a pretty good pilot.

00:18:37: maybe you should try to fly for the airlines.

00:18:40: and The problem was that uh from my last five years in the navy i had not flown Anything.

00:18:48: i was doing A different type of job And so i wasn't current In anything.

00:18:55: um i Was also To to try to get on with the airlines.

00:19:03: I was a little bit handicapped as I was helicopter pilot and I didn't have any multi-engine fixed wing time had single engine fixed Wing Time, and And I had Multi Engine helicopters but no Multi Engine times.

00:19:17: so I Tried to get On With The Airlines.

00:19:21: they did all of the interview preps and you know that went to the seminars and i got.

00:19:28: I got my airline transport license and multi-engine license, And i got type rated in the Boeing seven thirty seven But not having enough time In Multi engine aircraft.

00:19:42: The airlines weren't really interested to speak with me.

00:19:46: so I kind of switched gears to corporate aviation and a friend of mine that I grew up offered me a job flying a Cessna Citation back in the late nineties and I did that.

00:20:03: That was my entry into corporate aviation.

00:20:09: I followed on, couple years later to a job of flying at Gulf Streams which is what i'm flying now.

00:20:21: Southwest Airlines in the United States called me up and said hey, would you like to come in for an interview?

00:20:26: And at that time I was having too much fun flying corporate aviation.

00:20:30: Then I just decided no i think im gonna stick with what Im doing now.

00:20:37: You mentioned right from beginning of our interview that you have obviously extensive international experience.

00:20:44: What would you say have you learned from operating around the world, besides the regulatory or paperwork that you mentioned?

00:20:56: Well again.

00:20:59: You definitely have to pay attention.

00:21:04: The controllers all speak a different abilities in English.

00:21:13: So sometimes it's difficult to understand what they're saying and when you are on the terminal, busy terminal area might be a little difficult for us to understand.

00:21:23: so pain attention is really key.

00:21:26: using correct phraseology.

00:21:29: we hear an America tend We take a little bit of liberty on the radio, but I think in Europe and in Middle East Asia you really have to use correct radio terminology so that there's no misunderstanding.

00:21:51: No misunderstanding perfect bridge to my next question.

00:21:56: let us talk about leadership.

00:21:59: You served as both captain and chief pilot.

00:22:03: how did leadership change your perspective?

00:22:08: Well, when you're in charge or the people underneath that are supporting they're looking to make wise decisions and it's very important I think.

00:22:32: To get input from everyone.

00:22:38: And if you can make the decision that everyone is in agreement with, That's best.

00:22:46: But it comes down to it and nobody has an agreement.

00:22:50: then as captain or chief pilot You have to make a final decision.

00:22:56: but I think its very important To take input from everybody.

00:23:00: don't just walk all over and make decisions on your own.

00:23:06: It's really, especially in corporate aviation where you're very close to a small group You have to take everybody's opinion into consideration otherwise they will alienate them.

00:23:19: it won't be good working environment after that.

00:23:25: More than twelve thousand accidents and incidents.

00:23:28: three hours is remarkable achievement.

00:23:32: What do you attribute that to mostly?

00:23:41: I think the most important thing is preparation before a flight, really going over all of details ahead-of time and making sure functions that we have to do beforehand are what really make it so that I've experienced through my career because i've been in some situations, you know a little bit more hazardous than others and maybe it turned out that way?

00:24:37: Because of luck.

00:24:39: That's possible too!

00:24:43: But It sounds like your approach to risk management changed over the year.

00:24:47: or certainly its also the circumstance where you cannot compare military with corporate flying.

00:24:55: Yeah, absolutely.

00:24:58: In today's aviation world we're much more about mitigating risks than I was back in the military.

00:25:10: but it is good.

00:25:15: you can look at accident rates over years and they've just come down tremendously.

00:25:24: Today.

00:25:24: our approach to flying is, it's a much safer one.

00:25:31: What are some lessons or maybe one of two lessons?

00:25:34: experience has taught you that cannot be learned from the textbook?

00:25:38: Maybe take away from a pilot listening through the show.

00:25:44: Okay Things can't be taught in textbooks.

00:25:51: I think probably The biggest thing You learn, and you can't really learn it from a textbook is good judgment.

00:26:03: And uh...you learned judgement- I've probably heard this before.

00:26:08: You learn judgement by making decisions.

00:26:12: if the decision turns out wrong then you realize okay i cant do that again..i have to something else.

00:26:19: so we say Good judgement is learnt by exercising poor judgement.

00:26:30: I'm not sure if that really fits all the time, but you know.

00:26:34: I think that judgment and You know just Just knowing the right thing to do is something that you can't really learn in a textbook.

00:26:45: Experiences King.

00:26:48: Yes exactly Exactly.

00:26:51: it gets easier, you know.

00:26:52: If you're in the same situation more times, you know it gets easier to exercise that good judgment.

00:27:04: Let's talk a little bit about yeah back to the current moment and also corporate aviation.

00:27:10: how has corporate aviation to stay in your field changed since you started?

00:27:19: Well certainly the equipment as changed over the years.

00:27:24: when I which is a Gulf Stream.

00:27:33: We had steam gauges, very rudimentary navigation systems... we did have an FMS's.

00:27:41: but the avionics that we have today provide for much greater situational awareness.

00:27:55: I think and i think this can also be problem too I think that, especially younger pilots coming up.

00:28:04: They handle these new avionics extremely well.

00:28:09: but if things start to go wrong and they don't have much look at as far as displays let's say you lose the display.

00:28:22: it makes more difficult.

00:28:27: Being able to revert back to some of the training I've had before Makes it easier to handle these These kinds of situations.

00:28:36: now that this generally doesn't know You Know pop up during a flight.

00:28:42: It usually pops up during training in simulator, but it definitely helps too.

00:28:48: you know and seeing the changes over the years And its amazing to me just what innovations have come in over the last five years with some of the navigation systems we have and it's truly amazing.

00:29:13: Yeah, a thing about truly amazing from the current perspective or current time if you record this by June What developments do you see personally shaping the future of industry?

00:29:33: Well, specifically for the corporate aviation world.

00:29:45: You know that's a good question I think you know, the newer innovations in aircraft are going to continue and maybe even at a greater pace than they are now.

00:30:08: I don't know if we'll get to the point where will only need one pilot to conduct these trips...I suppose that i know there trying do with airlines but You know and these long trips it seems like I don't know if we're going to be able To get away with that.

00:30:34: but uh, i think the you know The new innovations.

00:30:44: With avionics It's only gonna improve safety And speed.

00:30:52: And passenger comfort.

00:31:00: That's about it there.

00:31:02: Yeah, and I mean what advice would you give to young pilots listening to the show?

00:31:09: And who hope to build a long and successful career?

00:31:16: well uh i think that uh and II look back at some of the mistakes I made.

00:31:22: so Uh III think that one I would You know first of all main remain focused on your goals, where you want to fit in and what realm of aviation.

00:31:41: There's a lot out there but hard work...there is no substitute for hardwork or study.

00:31:50: I was sometimes a little lax ...I don't wanna say that i'm natural pilot ,i dont think im but it did come easier did to some of my colleagues.

00:32:03: So always, for every flight that you're going be on put the time in preparation and... The other thing I would say is especially two young pilots don't rely so much all the time on automation.

00:32:24: if have a chance turn autopilot off or hand fly.

00:32:31: Obviously, when you're flying passengers and want to make things every bit as safe is possible.

00:32:47: Yes okay need use the automation but if get a chance turn the automation off.

00:32:55: at one of my companies we had policy that we hand flew aircraft below ten thousand feet and it makes me a better pilot today.

00:33:05: I still do that sometimes, so you know when the weather is bad.

00:33:09: i turn on all of my automation and use every bit but... So this would be second thing.

00:33:15: Every once in awhile turn off your automation and do things manually

00:33:21: Dave if we allow?

00:33:23: I am interested with personal deep dive into these questions.

00:33:27: If You could give Your younger self one piece of advice Just one.

00:33:32: What would it be?

00:33:37: That wouldn't always accept the easy path, sometimes a more difficult road is more rewarding.

00:33:50: I have some examples in my past that look back at and think maybe i should've done differently.

00:34:01: If can give you an example When I was in flight training as I mentioned, I wanted to be a helicopter pilot.

00:34:14: There were a couple of reasons.

00:34:15: I want it To Be A Helicopter Pilot.

00:34:17: one i found that when I got out Out Of the Ejection Seat of a Jet my back Was sore and I didn't know if I would really like That.

00:34:31: And the other reason I chose helicopters was because the training pipeline was shorter.

00:34:40: So, i look back and sometimes regret having done that...I think would have made a good pilot on an aircraft carrier possibly as either fighter or attack pilot.

00:35:00: So I think that my advice to myself would be don't always accept the easy road.

00:35:08: Brilliant, brilliant answer!

00:35:11: Yeah um... To come toward the end of this interview is there anything we haven't discussed?

00:35:17: That you'd like to leave as an audience today?

00:35:22: Well uh again i-I think maybe hit on it earlier but Decide what your dreams are and go after them with all you might.

00:35:33: And uh, All your strength?

00:35:35: You know just Really pursue What you love to do.

00:35:44: Absolutely fantastic interview Dave.

00:35:46: and Before we finish I'd like To thank you personally for Your time and For sharing your experience certainly with our audience.

00:35:55: As a small gesture from my side, I'd like to offer you a lifetime voucher for our mental performance coaching with me.

00:36:02: And if there is ever time when you feel that i can support you in any way all we have do it reach out.

00:36:11: It's the least i could do.

00:36:12: Thank You!

00:36:14: Well Jurgen thats very generous and i really do appreciate that.

00:36:19: thank you.

00:36:20: yeah You have afternoon or sorry, it's morning time on your place and Afternoon here a day ahead.

00:36:31: And as I said was a brilliant interview.

00:36:34: Thank you for your time.

00:36:36: It was a real honor to have you at the aviation quest to see Dave.

00:36:40: Well certainly what my pleasure Jurgen and I really do.

00:36:44: thank you for this opportunity.

00:36:50: All right then we are back.

00:36:52: What?

00:36:53: A nice and genuinely humble, honest person.

00:36:58: I could have listened to him way longer.

00:37:00: to be honest with you He seems so open and honest about his journey His decision-making About everything.

00:37:10: Yeah i really enjoyed that.

00:37:11: You had a great interview.

00:37:12: once again Congratulations!

00:37:15: And also can just say as a formal so to say thank you To Captain Dave Samson.

00:37:22: If you listen to this, thank-you once again for joining us on Aviation Quest SC and it was a genuine privilege.

00:37:30: To hear your reflections of leadership professionalism and a lifetime in aviation And we wish you continuous success and certainly many safe flights In the years ahead.

00:37:44: Yeah, I conquer absolutely.

00:37:47: So also from my side a big thank you for coming on For taking time out of your busy schedule and for talking to us Generally.

00:37:57: this goes for every single person that has ever been on And all the people will be on because we're pre-recording Podcasts months ahead.

00:38:08: I find it amazing that all these busy people are willing to talk to us, take time out you know prepare because as usually is not just coming on talking for thirty minutes.

00:38:19: There's sometimes a bit more that goes into it.

00:38:22: so big thank-you of course Dave but also the other people who will be part our podcast.

00:38:31: Yeah, it's incredible.

00:38:32: Also from my side I just can thank you also the LinkedIn community and the aviation community.

00:38:39: you are such great people and I accept every connection invite or whatever.

00:38:46: this is called again my non existent social media vocabulary here.

00:38:51: but i accept everybody who's asking to join so-to say my network on LinkedIn from aviation answering to your messages.

00:39:02: This is one of the tasks that's on my to-do list for this afternoon, I take my time and normally answer every message in person.

00:39:12: And it really also humbling great to read from Really great people in aviation.

00:39:21: they like us we should go on Stefan i think what are doing here with the guests?

00:39:29: Yeah, it's getting more and more in a long-term project which is just amazing.

00:39:35: Just as Stefan I think never did my podcast career...I don't know five interviews in a row?

00:39:44: Five days but yeah!

00:39:47: It going on.

00:39:50: Yeah, another way to contact us is certainly our home page and email addresses aviation at aviation-quest.cc.

00:39:58: You also find there all the contact information.

00:40:01: But yeah.

00:40:02: And third possibility certainly the discord server.

00:40:05: Stefan Is running a discord server in order direct links.

00:40:08: so the link through the Discord Server The linked to the link that I think do my LinkedIn profile and all the other links you will find an awesome email address.

00:40:19: if in the teaser, so at the end of our show notes you will find all information there and if you leave us a review or comment it would be great.

00:40:33: You don't have to do this for us but simply as guests like today.

00:40:38: Captain Samson I already started part Really, really not good in

00:40:49: the social media thing.

00:40:50: Yeah Well we keep telling people well Let's let's put it this way We try to do The Social Media Thing where we tell People To like subscribe and all that.

00:41:00: but you know?

00:41:00: We are with two old-school guys.

00:41:04: We're not we're Not Good at This But I think Everyone Who is Like on YouTube or Whatever Channel You're Listening to Us.

00:41:11: you Know the game you know how the Algorithm Works.

00:41:14: We all know how this works.

00:41:16: So if you like what you hear, If You Like What You Saw... ...you Know What to Do To Support The Channel.

00:41:22: A short

00:41:23: review or a comment wherever you listen today would be nice and it is as I said the privilege for me to conduct interviews like these.

00:41:36: And also thank you Stefan for your time in your project besides other wise super busy life.

00:41:45: and yeah it's really a pleasure to have this podcast.

00:41:50: Yeah, I agree!

00:41:52: It is small channel right now but in a way i don't mind for me the pleasure of listening with people like Dave and meeting all these amazing personalities from different parts.

00:42:12: That for me is actually the most amazing thing.

00:42:16: I think we've already met some incredible people, and have learned so much already!

00:42:23: So this has never been about becoming the biggest podcast of making money or anything like that... This was always a passion project to just talk with people meet people talk about aviation because you can spend hours talking flying.

00:42:41: And so yeah, I'm glad we get to do this.

00:42:46: Yeah!

00:42:46: I enjoy spending time here

00:42:50: and all i can say we are just with a big smile got an eye on our calendar here in our podcast calendar...I could just say we have a subscription next week.

00:43:02: Next Sunday will be a big surprise.

00:43:04: it's our first African guest And it's going on and on.

00:43:08: There are so many special guests, certainly Stefan already knows about them.

00:43:13: I think Stefan you agree this is yeah there some guest coming up.

00:43:18: that i think was a thumbs-up not for us but the guests versus subscription to our podcast And an ongoing question that's coming in by LinkedIn, I can answer also on the podcast when it comes to first contact and setup call with coaching me.

00:43:37: I talked about or mentioned shortly introduction of my mental performance coachings for pilots always completely free without obligations.

00:43:49: So no problem, we can set up a Zoom call or I can call you.

00:43:53: Or whatever is comfortable for you and No costs!

00:43:58: No obligations.

00:43:59: It's just...you know You can check out on me if i am able to help you whenever you want.

00:44:06: Yeah exactly We're not very good at making money, right?

00:44:10: You again.

00:44:10: We are not salespeople!

00:44:12: we just want to have fun and enjoy ourselves And you the kind of person who just wants help other people.

00:44:19: But yeah that's a way it is.

00:44:21: My goal in moment was most positive influence on mental performance In aviation community.

00:44:31: I can have more information about this By the ways also What I mentioned already, I think two or three times the LinkedIn page.

00:44:41: Go for it!

00:44:42: Yeah exactly... All right Jürgen well It was a pleasure to talk you again.

00:44:48: i guess we keep on the line and discuss further developments And yeah..I don't know is there anything else that you want say before we sign off?

00:44:58: No I think as I said one more time Thank you to all the guests.

00:45:03: Today, certainly to Captain Dave Samson.

00:45:05: and yes Stefan You have to stay in line.

00:45:08: we have to discuss Africa.

00:45:11: Yes exactly Yeah Okay then thank you very much To everyone who's still listening Who is here with us And as always We look forward to having your back Very soon.

00:45:24: Have a good day Everyone All the best!

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