Aaryan Malik – From Air Cadets to Airline Ambitions

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00:00:47: Hello and welcome.

00:00:48: This is our weekly podcast called Aviation Quest, my name is Stefan Lorenz.

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00:01:24: Nice to see you again!

00:01:26: Easygoing Stefan as many listeners hopefully know about.

00:01:29: Stefan is a professional pilot here and I'm Jürgen Reis.

00:01:34: And i am a mental coach focusing on aviation, and yeah i mean Stefan was again correct.

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00:02:07: and no!

00:02:08: There even some flight team background going on.

00:02:14: Stefan what is waiting for the listeners?

00:02:17: Maybe a real world flight?

00:02:20: Yes, real-world flight today.

00:02:22: And this is coincidence because I always pre-record all the flights The flight to day.

00:02:27: it's very fitting for the interview Because we are going to United Kingdom and we have an A-Tree by Easy Chat from Liverpool All the way down to Faro in Portugal.

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00:02:46: Speaking of Great Britain Today Stefan & I are pleased to welcome Arya Malik from Great Britain, to Aviation Quest to Sea and I guess Stefan you will agree that's a story of its kind.

00:03:02: It is amazing!

00:03:04: Yeah.

00:03:06: The way it works is you can record the interview, then he sends me a recording and I listen to it when i'm back from my flights.

00:03:13: And I have to say this was an interview that I really enjoyed.

00:03:16: Ariane sounds very mature.

00:03:19: if we listened him You would have to guess his age.

00:03:22: He will never believe how young he is.

00:03:25: He's clearly a very driven person Very focused and despite this young age already very deep in the industry, I think he's doing everything right.

00:03:39: Just about to get into next big step which is ATPLs aiming for a career in aviation industry or airline industry.

00:03:51: For those of you who are maybe thinking about getting in the industry or also just doing your PPLs and stuff like that, this is a super interesting interview because he found very nice way to get into the industry.

00:04:05: Like he said himself cost it's big factor.

00:04:08: so listen out some clever tips here.

00:04:13: as Jürgen said – very impressive young man!

00:04:17: It's amazing.

00:04:18: At just twenty years of age Ariane is already combining university studies, flight training and valuable experience through the Royal Air Force air cadets and Oxford University Air Squadron as he works towards a professional flying career.

00:04:35: I think this really... it must have listened more than one time for everybody who may be aiming for the professional ways there.

00:04:47: Would you agree?

00:04:48: Yes, absolutely!

00:04:50: I think he gives some very good insights what it is like right now to train how to get your license, best ways to get into the industry.

00:05:00: Like I said he discussed his topics like the cost of becoming a pilot and how to be able to circumnavigate that.

00:05:08: so i do think it's very good insight in what means right now.

00:05:16: if you want become commercial pilots What is the best path forward?

00:05:22: We recorded this in May And we hope you enjoy this authentic conversation with a young aviator whose passion for aviation is impossible to miss as much as I did, Stefan.

00:05:35: Yes!

00:05:38: So let's jump into the interview.

00:05:40: Jürgen and i will be back after the interview with some more words of wisdom.

00:05:45: maybe we'll discuss a bit more what we heard during the interview.

00:05:51: so yeah... We'll hope to hear then again.

00:05:56: Well, and we are in the main part of this podcast.

00:06:00: Welcome to the show Arianne!

00:06:01: Hello

00:06:03: Thank you very much for having me Jürgen.

00:06:05: I hope it went well.

00:06:06: Yeah...well together started here.

00:06:09: Right now what does life look like between university flying and everything else that's going on?

00:06:16: Quite busy huh?

00:06:18: Ah too busy far too busy But the balance is nice.

00:06:23: It´s nice be surrounded by like-minded people and doing things that I'm really passionate about, so what does a day to day look like?

00:06:32: To answer the question is my current university degree is aviation management where we're learning about The business behind airlines airport planning.

00:06:46: But also my University allows me to do my flight training alongside this.

00:06:51: So in order to pass your first year of my degree.

00:06:56: I must have my PPL and then, In order to passed a second-year of Degree you must've completed your ATPL.

00:07:01: so it's great degree that allows me combine Bachelors & my flight training towards getting into the cockpit And add on this already crazy workload.

00:07:13: i joined the RAF UAS University Air Squadron which is um military organization tied underneath the Royal Air Force that allows university students in any degree across a few select universities to join, receive flight training experience.

00:07:35: The military world while also doing some adventurous training we do.

00:07:41: parachuting lots of hiking rock climbing endless opportunities with the RAF

00:07:48: sounds amazing.

00:07:50: Tell us a little bit more about this Oxford University air squadron.

00:07:53: I mean it sounds really quite unique and maybe also especially for people from England or Great Britain.

00:08:00: Yes, It's an amazing opportunity.

00:08:03: So i started my journey through the RAF as per se at age of twelve.

00:08:11: joining The RAF Cadets which is under eighteen scheme does the same but it's not as intense.

00:08:21: So I've always known that i would go to university and want to join a University Air Squadron just because of opportunities are far greater, its paid work... It is really good for a university student!

00:08:35: To answer your question what actually means Oxford University Air squadron?

00:08:42: In whole UK there Don't know the exact number, but I'd say around ten university air squadrons all in different parts of The country.

00:08:52: so that's Oxford Cambridge.

00:08:54: There's a East Midlands Edinburgh and So each of these squadrons choose three or four universities which they'd like to take students from?

00:09:04: So Oxford for mine They take from Oxford University Oxford Brooks Reading and Buckinghamshire New University Which is my at university.

00:09:11: um...so you go through Pretty standard interview fitness entrance exams and tests And then you're in the Oxford University.

00:09:25: Air Squadron has Our own RAF base which we are based at, which is quite lucky.

00:09:33: some don't.

00:09:34: so We meet once a week there.

00:09:36: We talk aviation ex-logistics officers, or sometimes currently serving officers.

00:09:49: So to get that information and experience from them has been beyond useful especially as a young person.

00:09:58: aviation the RAF military route is definitely one I would take.

00:10:02: so yeah just keeping kind of all my doors open into the cockpit really

00:10:09: Yeah.

00:10:09: before we come Looking back at it, Arjan.

00:10:15: When did aviation first become more than just an interest for you personally?

00:10:20: Yeah

00:10:20: that's a great question.

00:10:24: Gosh Aviation started early.

00:10:27: I've always been one of those kids in school where the teacher would ask You what your dream job and It was pilot since as long As i can remember.

00:10:35: But Where Did That Start?

00:10:36: Really i think air shows is A really young Child.

00:10:41: But then that passion kind of came into fruition and it felt real rather than just a dream when I joined the RAF Air Cadets.

00:10:50: The best decision i ever made was joining the cadets, I stayed there for six years.

00:10:55: um...I flew the grobshooter with the RAEF , I flew the Viking glider with the raf travel tour traveled to Florida, to train with the US Air Force and the cadets all in the ages between twelve and eighteen which is a super early start.

00:11:12: To be getting this kind of aviation experience.

00:11:15: so that for me really was the turning point where aviation started.

00:11:19: feel real rather than just dream.

00:11:22: Was there maybe particular moment or flight?

00:11:25: That's confirmed from you.

00:11:28: This what I wanted do.

00:11:32: Yeah, it's a great question.

00:11:32: When you find out that you don't get sick when you fly because That has happened to quite few of my friends.

00:11:37: Yes!

00:11:38: It is good question.

00:11:40: For my twelfth birthday I received a trial flight Or no, thirteenths birthday i think was I received the Trial Flight at Staplesford Airfield if u know in London Just for forty five minute trial flight with an instructor.

00:11:56: Very basic of course But THAT FOR ME WAS THE definite answer that I will be a pilot when i grow up and since then, but I can't stop thinking about it really.

00:12:05: It's quite annoying

00:12:07: Yeah And you also started your PPL training quite recently?

00:12:12: I did.

00:12:15: What has surprised me the most?

00:12:18: in real world flying is relative.

00:12:21: But to get into a real PPL education There are structure courses.

00:12:26: Yes More than just getting experience

00:12:30: Yeah, it's yeah.

00:12:31: You're completely right It's.

00:12:32: um gosh where do I even start?

00:12:35: It's a lot more than i thought it would be if that sounds silly but uh...I kind of thought it Would Be easy and its absolutely not.

00:12:47: the exams firstly Where Do I Start?

00:12:49: those nine exams are really heavy on The content so they took me got the better part of six months to study and pass all nine of those UK CAA PPL exams.

00:13:03: And then, flying so... The U.K has just dropped it down to forty hours at a minimum for your PPL which is drastically unachievable.

00:13:11: I have my skills test next week in about forty-eight hours Which i'm still happy about.

00:13:17: but Gosh!

00:13:18: The PPL has taught me SO much about flying current airfield which is Denim Aerodrome on the first day with my parents and paid my membership fee.

00:13:28: And just looking at the hustle-and-bustle of a flight school, everyone would then maps out plugging their flights sky demon iPads headsets all over place.

00:13:40: I knew it was right for me but yeah its more intense than i thought it'd be flying solo.

00:13:48: that's crazy.

00:13:52: So yeah, just to go from having never flown a plane other than the trial lesson to flying two hundred and fifty nautical miles solo cross countries.

00:14:04: Yeah it's an achievement I'm really quite proud of.

00:14:07: Hey one after another!

00:14:08: One number that was for me quite outstanding in your LinkedIn posts By the way, great link in profile and you

00:14:17: keep up with it.

00:14:18: I've been trying...I wish i started earlier.

00:14:20: Yeah that's really amazing.

00:14:22: It is super professional.

00:14:23: Thank You very much.

00:14:24: Your first solo came after only twelve hours Arian.

00:14:29: Yes

00:14:30: What do we remember most clearly from that day?

00:14:32: Because this is quite unusual.

00:14:36: Okay well I will start by saying it was twelve hours In my logbook but I had been flying with the RAF for a while before.

00:14:46: Sure, but it's still... It was the

00:14:47: conservative answer to say twelve hours.

00:14:49: The PPL lessons and they said yeah okay okay.

00:14:52: They didn't stop the question but not really.

00:14:55: So yes, twelve hours with my PPL But i have done about maybe eight with the RAAF cadets in a mixture of power and gliding.

00:15:05: so I understood that Im also massive flight simmer And im playing Flight Sim from about Flight Simulator X, those days now playing the newest one.

00:15:16: So I... Those kind of it um these kinds experiences aided towards my fast progression at PPL.

00:15:25: there's few people i could use as examples where their first flight in PPL was that first time seeing instruments to cockpit and really understanding the fundamentals aircrafts you know.

00:15:36: so for me a challenge, I understood what to look at.

00:15:44: What...I could read instruments and understand the control column would do for the plane.

00:15:51: So these kind of basics that i already had down which i think aided towards my fast progression toward solo at PPR.

00:15:57: And

00:15:58: you also mentioned just a minute ago your cross countries.

00:16:03: How different did that feel compared with earlier flight training?

00:16:08: Cross country is certainly another mission

00:16:11: Mm-hmm.

00:16:13: Oh gosh, I mean it's a good day It's a long day.

00:16:16: It's hard day.

00:16:21: How did you feel?

00:16:22: Um... It felt quite adult honestly to really actually You're sat on the ground with your instructor and then you just blink And y'all are in the sky alone flying following your map following Sky Demon you know, getting basic services traffic services from UK LARS we call them lower airspace radio services.

00:16:46: And yeah it felt quite natural which is a good thing when you arrive at your first destination.

00:16:55: so we do two landings.

00:16:59: I don't what the structure's like in other places but that's where they are in the UK.

00:17:03: So I flew from Denham to Coventry Coventary to Duxford and then Duxford back to Denim.

00:17:10: God, it was just a great day!

00:17:11: It went really smoothly.

00:17:12: I prepared very well...I knew who i would talk with when i'd tune into the frequencies.. ...and all my joining instructions for airports.

00:17:22: Yeah....it's really comfortable And its been such an awesome day in general!

00:17:27: It sounded like you were really well-prepared!

00:17:31: It is always key in aviation I think!

00:17:33: I guess yeah!

00:17:35: Hopefully.

00:17:37: Let me segue back a little bit to the Royal Air Force air cadets and now also the Oxford University air squadron, Ariane.

00:17:46: You're experienced there.

00:17:47: how would you say from this day?

00:17:52: How much did this influence your approach of flying especially in team work?

00:18:02: Teamwork leadership these are really key things that I try to influence my career choices.

00:18:11: The RAF start your leadership and teamwork from very early, we do all the adventurous training... It's quite like a camaraderie you will start wearing the same uniform.

00:18:29: You're at an equal rank when you start.

00:18:32: so it kind of helps gel together when you all know that your like-minded individuals, love aviation.

00:18:41: You want to have a possible military or flying career.

00:18:45: so it helps the team work and help you gel.

00:18:47: but then leadership really comes from progression within the military I do love start as lower ranks And you can work your way up to in.

00:18:58: for example, when the RAF air cadets You could walk away up to a Cadet warrant officer is the highest rank.

00:19:04: so that progression helps you as a leader.

00:19:07: it allows you To be rewarded for the stuff that you give into the squadron and you get back in promotion.

00:19:14: Then better opportunities then also gives an opportunity to lead The younger cadets which is pretty invaluable at really young age and try to lead, have a group underneath you.

00:19:32: So the military for me is always kind of second nature.

00:19:36: I've really enjoyed The discipline always helped me.

00:19:41: i liked wearing the uniform.

00:19:43: I loved the progression aspect Yeah!

00:19:48: And the free-flying was also nice as well.

00:19:51: For people like me outside the United Kingdom, no clue of RAF hierarchy.

00:19:58: You're two years old now.

00:20:01: how high are you already in the middle or?

00:20:05: Yeah I mean not currently.

00:20:08: so the UAS the University Air Squadron is a voluntary reserve service.

00:20:14: okay there's different.

00:20:17: There's different levels even within that.

00:20:18: so you can be a regular which is a full-time serving RAF member, then you have the reserves who.

00:20:26: They do a certain amount of hours A year towards the RAF but mostly have Other jobs other nine to fives as they do with most of their time and they're remunerated, paid for the work.

00:20:40: And then you have us which are voluntary reserves to RAF.

00:20:43: so we give a certain amount hours towards the RAF.

00:20:53: but when it comes to hierarchy at the moment its once again difficult.

00:21:02: We do dine in the officer's mess and we're treated as officers on base.

00:21:10: Our official rank is Officer Cadet.

00:21:12: So, at a twenty-year old it's a great rank to be at.

00:21:16: You've instantly kind of jumped into top end of hierarchy As per say.

00:21:23: Yes so its nice to be treated an officer you are surrounded by already pilots Logistics Officers Air Traffic Officers At Dinner.

00:21:34: like I said earlier in the call, we're based at RAF Benson which is a home of Chinook for Royal Air Force.

00:21:43: We used to have the Puma but that just went out-of service for the RAF.

00:21:47: so you go down to dinner and your surrounded by Chinook pilots X Puma pilots all talking about their X stories and other sorties, which they've done throughout their career.

00:22:00: And it just is incredible!

00:22:02: It's an opportunity that you do not get in any other military career at the age of twenty.

00:22:10: I mean...it's second to none.

00:22:13: Yeah?

00:22:13: Wow!

00:22:14: That's a great promotion!

00:22:17: You deserve something like deserved

00:22:19: promotions for

00:22:21: the Royal Air Force.

00:22:22: but yeah.... Maybe from promoting the military also to civilian side, because you are studying aviation management alongside flying site.

00:22:35: How valuable is it for you understand industry beyond just a cockpit Arian?

00:22:41: Yeah that's really good question.

00:22:42: so I'm not only will advocate in the military world but i'll have a dying love of civil is such a crazy beast to me.

00:22:56: Watching these, I don't know if you've seen the busiest airport in Europe documentary by Channel Four?

00:23:02: And watching that on the sofa and the logistics behind airports like Heathrow for me it's incredible.

00:23:09: so aviation management for me was pretty obvious choice.

00:23:14: uh...to study would allow me have some passion behind my studies which i always think helps in grades and then also my degree allows me to train alongside.

00:23:24: They give out of the three years of my second year there is no studies towards a degree because we have complete our ATPL training.

00:23:34: so they gave us the second year completely off uni just for focus on those ATPLs.

00:23:41: but yeah studying airport management, airline management it's fun exactly what I've always wanted.

00:23:50: backup almost if I could say that.

00:23:53: We all know becoming a pilot requires good level of medical, you have to be fit and healthy.

00:24:01: so having degrees is always a good back up.

00:24:04: there's no guarantees i'll have very long career as a pilot.

00:24:08: anything can happen right?

00:24:10: Having degree helps me stay in the industry if couldn't become a pilot staying at aviation world whatever job it may.

00:24:17: So

00:24:19: it's a valuable, invaluable plan B maybe in the future.

00:24:22: Yes

00:24:23: yes

00:24:24: hopefully you'll be an cockpit but as you said It might be a plan b You would also enjoy as a career.

00:24:31: Exactly working for an airline or working For an airport will Be A great job.

00:24:34: But yeah we are.

00:24:36: and let's focus.

00:24:38: Get into the main focus here.

00:24:40: The cockpit.

00:24:41: in October, twenty-twenty six you'll begin UK CAA ATPL training with leading edge aviation.

00:24:49: What are your most looking forward to?

00:24:51: In that next certainly decisive phase?

00:24:56: Yeah great question.

00:24:57: Um what am I most looking forwards to?

00:25:00: getting a deeper understanding of planes right now?

00:25:05: my understanding is PPL level very elementary, but to learn how you know turbine engines work jet airplane fly multi-engine aircrafts getting really detailed on flight operations and cockpit management human factors just Just understanding these subjects.

00:25:26: I'm a really deep and Very professional level is what i'm excited for.

00:25:34: What?

00:25:38: Yeah, that's inevitable when it comes to it.

00:25:45: I'm really excited to start

00:25:48: looking from yourself maybe also or From your perspective at this stage of your journey.

00:25:55: What do you think is the biggest challenge for young aspiring pilots like you today?

00:26:00: You know from you two the others a little bit so-to say

00:26:06: It's gotta be the main one.

00:26:07: The cost to become a pilot is very high.

00:26:11: There's there's a lot of great schemes in the UK BA speedbird program Which just closed I think couple, couple weeks ago.

00:26:21: That's a great scheme for young people To get jobs as pilots and BA without any money.

00:26:30: A BA cover.

00:26:31: all the costs.

00:26:32: feel commercial pilot training.

00:26:34: That's an incredible opportunity.

00:26:35: There are things like the Air League in the UK.

00:26:38: we have who do scholarships for PPL, ATPL your instructor rating that they... They had some incredible opportunities there.

00:26:47: but The biggest barrier to entry for pilots now as young people is the cost.

00:26:52: You know it's a notoriously expensive career to get into.

00:26:58: Did

00:26:59: you personally get any advantage of scholarship?

00:27:02: No, I'm not underneath any scholarship.

00:27:04: Which is why always keep my avenues open for free aviation experiences like the RAF which has been a massive help

00:27:13: and i mean so to say right into the hopefully paid cockpit job.

00:27:18: when you look A few years ahead Hopefully The better sooner than later what kind of flying or career paths currently attracts two most Aryan Airlines.

00:27:33: Yes Yes, the airlines is number one I would say But it's For me.

00:27:41: The dream is to be paid-to-fly.

00:27:43: whether that be you know a tour guide pilot in Alaska Flying sea planes and the Maldives flying in military aircraft or flying an airline airliner these are all just dream jobs.

00:27:57: but if i had put yeah the icing on the cake It'd be an airline job.

00:28:00: there Is something about walking through an airport terminal?

00:28:28: Yes, this is a big problem at the moment.

00:28:37: Etihad, BA... Well Singapore would be great.

00:28:47: But for the start of my career there's a very common trend in UK CAA pilots is you do start at low cost flyer so your riding air and easy jets then build your hours pulled into one of the big high-end luxury airlines.

00:29:06: But for me, that doesn't really seem massively appealing.

00:29:09: to fly through a low cross carrier just because Give you a little bit more relaxation around your working schedule as a pilot Especially once you move to that long haul, I think it's a lot more desirable.

00:29:42: So for short For a young pilot for like low-hour just finished your commercial pilot training?

00:29:49: I really would look for jobs like Transmoldivian Belize air Anywhere flying like a multi engine aircraft but on a short tropical maybe quite difficult and intense location.

00:30:06: I would really enjoy it a little bit more than flying at low cost.

00:30:11: When i think back what you said in the middle of the interview, could also see your great flight instructor for awhile?

00:30:20: Yes!

00:30:22: You got quality as personality without knowing but so much into teams working with others.

00:30:31: Yeah, I honestly never thought about it.

00:30:34: Um...I've kind of always had this career path in my mind but yeah!

00:30:43: Definitely would be open to that and love teaching people.

00:30:46: You know we have PPL like ground school sessions with my students.

00:30:51: currently My colleagues and peers at university.

00:30:54: We get together all group study the PPL theory.

00:30:58: so So I really like instructing and teaching them that way as well.

00:31:01: And especially through the RAF, have had lots of experience teaching.

00:31:04: so yeah maybe i would um...i might look into it.

00:31:09: I mean as i said may be a time building an also quality time-building experience before one.

00:31:15: your dream airline shops opens doors

00:31:19: Definitely!

00:31:19: Yeah..I'd love to do that.

00:31:21: It's quite a lot.

00:31:22: opportunity for flying instructors at UK right now

00:31:25: Sure, and I mean yeah.

00:31:27: one of the last questions here or the last question so to say already if somebody younger is listening right now And dreaming about aviation like you back then What would you honestly tell them from your own experience?

00:31:41: So far arian.

00:31:45: Yeah great question.

00:31:49: If anyone who's dreaming of aviation The door is open.

00:31:54: Aviation is yours for the taking.

00:31:56: It's an industry which it only getting bigger, more exciting.

00:32:01: The planes are getting cooler and we can go anywhere.

00:32:11: So my advice to you is take every opportunity that there is.

00:32:15: It's a ethos I live by, never turn an opportunity down.

00:32:20: You'll always get something valuable and if don't yet have time Especially in the UK for example There are so many opportunities for scholarships Free flying opportunities loads of mentors waiting for people to ask them questions.

00:32:40: LinkedIn has been a great help for me, especially like I mean this is a great example of something that LinkedIn provides.

00:32:46: and the calls you'll have with captains ,the call you will have with recruiters at airlines all these free opportunities from networking just putting yourself out there are invaluable.

00:33:00: so yeah don't let The harsh numbers of becoming a pilot be the thing that to tell you from your dream job because it is doable and It's manageable.

00:33:10: I'll love this interview.

00:33:12: Hi, we are just an audio podcast but if

00:33:14: there

00:33:15: had been a camera here You will see Well from one side or form one ear through the other.

00:33:22: Yeah And also by the way, thank

00:33:24: you.

00:33:25: Thank you very much.

00:33:25: in is really for for aviation community.

00:33:29: Maybe also little bit take away from my site.

00:33:31: it is worse.

00:33:33: Opening a profile and starting being active there.

00:33:37: Yeah, it's from there

00:33:39: is

00:33:39: definitely

00:33:40: a bit of his worst work.

00:33:40: A hundred percent is so worth the work.

00:33:43: It's also not a lot of work.

00:33:45: a lot people say like it's so much work.

00:33:47: I its you know Just do something cool And just put on their right but that there is a bit Of a social stigma around LinkedIn?

00:33:53: Um i don't know if it's like that in Austria But people don't want to start.

00:33:57: it seems Like sometimes a bit ever Like a self promotion kind of thing, but it really isn't.

00:34:05: everyone is super happy to share their own Experiences and learn from each other.

00:34:10: It really is building off one another platform Which is something that I have massively learned as soon as I open up profile.

00:34:18: So yeah LinkedIn is amazing.

00:34:19: Andy brought us together.

00:34:21: I mean, I see it more as a really an adult network.

00:34:25: People are there with their real names and networking because they're also taking care of what they post.

00:34:31: so i see that in a positive way.

00:34:34: especially the aviation community wasn't that active at LinkedIn before I started this podcast, but now i really see the value also.

00:34:45: This podcast is a proof of the value to LinkedIn and enabled us to connect.

00:34:53: And thank you so much for having me on the podcast as well!

00:34:56: Finally Arianne... Thank You!

00:34:59: for joining aviation quest to see today and I thought a little gesture from my side, i'll send you voucher.

00:35:06: For free coaching session whenever your feel the timing is right whether that's before an exam or assessment during demanding phase of training.

00:35:16: it completely open ended without any obligation.

00:35:21: I

00:35:26: was going to ask that at the end of a podcast, is like i would love some coaching from you.

00:35:30: Yeah absolutely we will make this happen and as i said i'll send your free coaching voucher for yeah for our mental coaching.

00:35:40: awesome.

00:35:40: thank you so much Jürgen.

00:35:42: Thank You For Joining And Maybe Talk To You In The Future.

00:35:46: Definitely

00:35:46: Stay In Such

00:35:48: In ATPL Shape.

00:35:49: So To Say

00:35:50: Yes, yes thank you so much.

00:35:52: Thank you for all the kind words as well!

00:35:56: Okay and that brings us to the end of the interview.

00:36:00: I really enjoyed listening to that again.

00:36:02: how about you Jürgen?

00:36:05: Yeah it was amazing.

00:36:06: It was a really an amazing afternoon.

00:36:08: Aryan made my day And i just said yeah so to say off-off the line with Aryan.

00:36:15: Thank you once again Arjan for joining us on aviation quest to see and sharing your journey with our listeners.

00:36:23: And I wish all the very best For upcoming ATPL training, Stefan also already mentioned in intro everything that lies ahead.

00:36:33: i believe In this man.

00:36:36: yes it's amazing.

00:36:41: To be honest, after listening to it I thought this is the kind of young guy i would like to have in the cockpit with me.

00:36:48: So if you're listening Arianne ,you do know that I fly for a certain German airline with blue tails.

00:36:58: We do have bases.

00:37:00: there's a handful of bases where you do not have to speak German.

00:37:03: It is not the requirement, only English and we do have English people flying here in my company.

00:37:10: so it is possible.

00:37:11: if you pass the assessment which usually in Hamburg then...you know.. You'll be part of very cool airline group.

00:37:22: I think they would be lucky enough for me.

00:37:28: That's my advertising for my own company.

00:37:32: I hope they give you a nice roster next month, could be...

00:37:38: I doubt it but anyway!

00:37:40: It is always worth the try right?

00:37:43: Negotiation, podcast negotiations and i think Stefan if people like Arian want to address questions One of the easiest ways maybe is the Discord server, isn't it?

00:37:59: That's also besides linked in profile we mentioned during our interview and at the end of our teasers.

00:38:08: So if you scroll to the end there are a direct link for the Discord Server.

00:38:12: There're also podcast sections but I think this is an easy way too.

00:38:16: get into touch with you Stefan would you agree?

00:38:19: Yeah, it's the easiest way by far.

00:38:21: So on the YouTube video if you're watching The Youtube Video right now in the description You will find a link to the Discord server and It is very nice service.

00:38:31: A small community.

00:38:32: I think we are still below one hundred people Right Now but they all really nice their pilots And non-pilots and flights enthusiasts since usually its a lot of fun To hang out.

00:38:45: We share pictures and screenshots And of course we have discussions, as you can probably imagine some people already asked how do I get into the industry?

00:38:56: How do i prepare for an interview with an airline.

00:38:59: So this is a easy way to talk not just me but also Jürgen and yeah... Just having nice community to help out your questions.

00:39:12: Speaking about interview preparation or For listeners who may be interested in my work in mental performance coaching for aviation professionals and aspiring pilots, additional information can be found.

00:39:26: I think quite completely on my LinkedIn profile.

00:39:35: Completely exaggerated but everything essentially is there And an initial conversation to discuss goals, expectations and whether I may be able to help is always free of charge and completely without obligation.

00:39:50: So we can set up a Zoom call or... ...I could call you whatever no costs nor obligations but just want it there in the easiest way!

00:40:01: Since this whole thing aviation questions took off Bonn intended checking my message on LinkedIn usually twice a day because there is an ongoing stream of guests and questions.

00:40:18: And like on the Discord server, such a nice community!

00:40:23: No nest in nest.

00:40:24: no it's really just nice comments and questions and professional communication as I've also mentioned by end interview with Ariane.

00:40:35: Yeah exactly so.

00:40:38: That's why I mentioned the interviews because, obviously... ...I'm one who can talk a bit about what to expect in terms of technical questions.

00:40:49: Maybe simulator checks but when it comes to mental performance which is just as important, Jürgen is The Man!

00:40:56: Because he has way more experience than any other.

00:41:00: And so if you want the full package, then hopefully that should help as best it possibly can.

00:41:12: This is really a little bit of an unplanned coincidence but this Thursday afternoon its two fifteen p.m and it's June the fourth.

00:41:22: and I read these out because In forty five minutes, I will post a little freebie of my mental coaching syllabus for aviation professionals.

00:41:34: So an ongoing so to say manual and internal manual for my coaching work.

00:41:40: i'm usually working on it every day And a little bit linked in version is there every Thursday afternoon and coincidentally today's topic, so if you don't know.

00:41:52: You have to click back.

00:41:53: maybe now you hear this interview back into the tune postings but on this given day you will find a posting about interview preparation.

00:42:06: very good excellent all right.

00:42:09: well I think we can wrap this up, you know?

00:42:13: We still need to do the thing where really bad at.

00:42:16: which is all the social media things.

00:42:18: Smashing, smashing buttons and thumbs up and like us and subscribe and stuff?

00:42:23: Yeah we are super bad in this.

00:42:24: We're really bad

00:42:25: at it!

00:42:26: You should be better because you run even two YouTube channels our own end effects clips.

00:42:32: so... So to say a rundown here of all the buttons or double-bottom effects clips and aviation quest then enough button

00:42:44: for them Exactly You know, the usual social media stuff.

00:42:48: Subscribe like comment all that stuff.

00:42:52: but yeah and we don't make light of this if you are listening If your regular listener then Of course We're super happy to have you And uh...we always Happy To hear from you.

00:43:03: So if do Have any feedback Then please contact us.

00:43:06: Uh..We Always happy to speak to someone From The community.

00:43:10: Okay That's it for my side.

00:43:12: Did I forget anything Jürgen?

00:43:13: Anything left?

00:43:16: Yeah, I don't think so.

00:43:18: As i said enough button smashing on other channels going on and I thank you dear listeners for listening!

00:43:25: And we look forward to welcoming you back through the next episode of Aviation Quest DC Stories from above Next Sunday at two p.m central european time

00:43:37: Exactly also from my side.

00:43:39: Thank You very much and We look forward To seeing and hearing you in The next Episode.

00:43:44: bye-bye Thank you for listening to Aviation Quest CC stories

00:43:55: from above.

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