Professional Standards in Aviation – Insights from Captain Guido Mezzera

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00:00:45: Hello and welcome to the Aviation Quest CC podcast.

00:00:53: My name is Stefan Lorenz, I'm one of your hosts but as always i am not alone with me here in The Virtual Studio.

00:01:02: we're also in different countries it seems.

00:01:04: Jürgen how are you today?

00:01:07: Oh, brilliant.

00:01:08: Yeah also I mean we record this intro about six weeks after the main part was recorded.

00:01:16: so it's already to what end of May and now also paradise season i call it from now on here in Austria started.

00:01:24: no mid-morning i jumped into.

00:01:27: yeah It is quite fresh!

00:01:29: This way not cold but fresh river crystal clear water outside house.

00:01:35: It's also, you know not only on a Mediterranean island.

00:01:40: it can be paradise.

00:01:44: But today guest leads us to the country I think well known and famous for summer vibes made by Mediterranean sea or beautiful lake Stefan?

00:01:59: Yes absolutely!

00:02:05: We should stick before we forget to the official aviation quest to see podcast checklist.

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00:02:27: podcast.

00:02:28: But we have a YouTube channel, it's aviation-quest podcast.

00:02:33: and also there I think today is special real world flight for a special guest by FS Clips creator and certainly Real World Airbus pilot Stefan.

00:02:48: Yes, so as always you can watch something if your on YouTube.

00:02:51: So it's not too boring today.

00:02:53: We are hopping on an AG and Airbus A-iii-ii-ii and we're flying from Tessaluniki to Munich which is a flight I've done in the real world.

00:03:02: And yeah, Saluniki very nice approach.

00:03:06: But today were just taking off from there and they're flying to good old Munich

00:03:13: Good old Munich Sounds also, yeah great.

00:03:16: I mean summer wherever you are is i think always a good time to be.

00:03:21: and um quite sure as i said also today's guests from uh summer destination.

00:03:29: should i so-to say introduce the guest Stefan if you allow?

00:03:35: Yeah absolutely!

00:03:36: You go ahead...you obviously spoke to him personally whilst I was just listening to the interview afterwards and you spent some time with him off of Mike so-to speak.

00:03:47: So, i think it's much better if you introduce him.

00:03:51: It is a real pleasure.

00:03:53: in honor welcome Captain Guido Mazzara for our really young podcast here.

00:04:00: he has an experienced long haul pilot and type rating instructor who has a career spanning airline operations advanced flight instruction and pilot evaluation.

00:04:12: Stefan, I think also from your professional point of view this is correct!

00:04:18: Yes absolutely a really good interview as always you can.

00:04:22: congratulations i really enjoyed listening to it afterwards.

00:04:26: .I think this interview will be interesting for everyone who's interested in the airline industry.

00:04:34: If you're new, if your thinking of entering it there'll be a lot in the interview.

00:04:38: A lot tips on how to behave with the cockpit and what is... what is not seen as professional, but even for experienced pilots you go into a bit more detail on how pilots are evaluated and again the negative sides.

00:05:04: Let's call it the things he has seen throughout his career, where some pilots definitely need to improve on.

00:05:13: So I think that was very good insight into this profession and as always really a great interview.

00:05:21: again!

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00:06:50: I'm quite flexible and then we will do the interview.

00:06:54: And as i said if you are in aviation You should be on our podcast period.

00:07:00: Yeah

00:07:03: exactly We want to hear from anyone and everyone who has a story To tell.

00:07:08: of course like we said at the beginning it extends to flight The world of Flight Simulation As well.

00:07:15: You can deny a big fans of Flight Simulators.

00:07:19: So even if you're from that part of the industry, we definitely want to hear from you

00:07:25: and I am still absolutely yeah flight simulation is aviation.

00:07:30: what else is it?

00:07:32: Flight simulation is not computer gaming.

00:07:34: It's aviation!

00:07:35: It's serious aviation.

00:07:37: And your channel FS Clips Is The Proof That Its Not A Computer Game.

00:07:43: Yeah, I guess so.

00:07:46: It's come a long way like we discussed in some episodes further along the way past how it started and where are today.

00:07:56: So yeah flight teaming is pretty amazing hobby to day.

00:08:03: But without further ado I think we should get to the main part.

00:08:14: Many listeners are already waiting for it with Captain Guido Mezzara.

00:08:21: Yes, so we'll start the interview now.

00:08:23: And Jürgen and I will be back afterwards with some more thoughts... ...and some more housekeeping to speak about it.

00:08:30: Okay without further ado We let you hear our main part now.

00:08:34: So enjoy this interview.

00:08:39: Thank you for inviting me.

00:08:45: I thank you

00:08:50: and Stefan, it's a pleasure to be here!

00:08:56: Yeah let's jump right into the interview.

00:08:58: Gido if you allow how does your current professional setup look today?

00:09:04: i mean today we record this by April the ninth uh twenty-twenty six.

00:09:10: so how does a typical week or month looks like?

00:09:19: Well, you know my typical.

00:09:21: I'll talk about my month because basically what i do is.

00:09:25: I work Seventeen days during a month consecutive seventeen days and Then I'm off for consecutive thirteen days.

00:09:35: So that Is My Standard Month And Within These Seventeen Days That I am Employed.

00:09:42: Nowadays I Do About Six Seven Days in the Simulator instructing and the rest flying around the world.

00:09:52: So you switch between your flying, so to say profession?

00:09:56: And certainly the TRI and TRE role?

00:10:02: Correct!

00:10:02: I'm currently working as a TRI in line training captain... ...so i train on that line too In the simulator of my TRI.

00:10:09: however As mentioned before we are working with this new EBT framework which basically allows the TRIs to sign off the licenses during recurrent training for flight personnel.

00:10:28: So, doing this standard setup of recurrent-training TREs would only be allowed to sign the licenses.

00:10:39: but now within these new EBT framework, TRIs are also allow to sign their licenses.

00:10:47: Yeah, I mean the listeners obviously don't know about this but we had extended conversation last afternoon.

00:10:54: It was super interesting.

00:10:55: Gido Thank you for every second.

00:10:57: it was really.

00:10:58: But yeah back to the interview Can give us a little bit an idea of what changes?

00:11:06: For you when you move from pilot To instructor or examiner also mindset wise?

00:11:18: Well, mindset-wise It's.

00:11:22: it is very interesting switch because obviously as a pilot you have your own way of working or You know managing situations of planning our activity and Your decision making style.

00:11:38: And when you step in the back?

00:11:42: I had to train observe other people.

00:11:44: Obviously It's very interesting.

00:11:49: You can see many different ways of dealing with the same problem or dealing in a situation, planning operations and you learn a lot.

00:12:03: it is just an interesting experience.

00:12:06: when training people its important to give them room for maneuvering so they can utilize their own techniques and style, then only give inputs if-and when required to as a instructor.

00:12:27: When you judge that it is... It can be valuable input and help them improve their own operations.

00:12:35: but yeah the switch is interesting because whenever are in front of your step at back its quite an interesting switch.

00:12:45: sitting on the back observing from You can see a lot more than when you're sitting in the front.

00:12:52: Obviously, operating as an instructor and examiner... ...you really learn a lot!

00:12:59: And take this baggage with you when you are then sitting at the front because it helps to gain wider view of your operation.

00:13:11: Because we have seen so many different scenarios face whatever scenarios do show up during daily operations.

00:13:22: And we were discussing yesterday, so a little bit the similarities between World Cup climbing and aviation world?

00:13:30: I was just thinking about when you belay a climber... You also learn so much for your own!

00:13:40: The same can be said that it makes YOU a better pilot Also being a TRI and TRE.

00:13:49: Am I on the right path Guido here?

00:13:52: Yeah, um...I don't know if it makes you a better pilot but definitely If you are ready to learn which

00:14:00: we should

00:14:01: all

00:14:01: Because you see a lot You observe a lot!

00:14:04: You observe alot And if your already learning meaning that you're available To learn and intake new knowledge then It can help you improve yourself a more proficient pilot and more experienced.

00:14:20: It's definitely an excellent way of learning, improving yourself but again you have to be ready to learn.

00:14:28: as they say it is one the laws of learning

00:14:34: law readiness to learn new things or have a general understanding that you are willing to learn.

00:14:44: I think this is the basic of every learning process.

00:14:49: Yes, absolutely!

00:14:53: Gido allow me a big switch, decay switch do your beginnings?

00:14:59: what motivated you start flying back in the late nineteen nineties?

00:15:08: Well, I grew up very close to a local airport But it was a special local Airport because its in the north of Italy and It's the area where they build all the basically Italian Airplanes.

00:15:23: mostly Italian airplanes were built there.

00:15:25: So I had experimental aircraft test aircraft flying over my head.

00:15:28: All the time when I was little kid Which was an aircraft and helicopters actually which was an exceptional inspiration, of course.

00:15:38: And my father used to take me sometimes through the air shows and things like that.

00:15:42: so obviously many kids you know I had this kind of inspiration.

00:15:48: Then...I let it go for a while.

00:15:50: but then after high school i wasn't really motivated to go university.

00:15:57: I didn't want study something abstract.

00:16:00: An instructor from local flight school came over our High School and you know, proposed the training program to become a professional pilot.

00:16:09: And I realized that could be very good fit for me because i always liked engines speed y'know?

00:16:16: Um...and I could combine practical trading or theory-training let's say followed by immediate practical training.

00:16:25: uh..And thats exactly how it happened.

00:16:27: so when I then started fly school ,I would start in the morning and apply the knowledge that I learned in the morning with these beautiful machines.

00:16:38: Beautiful, they were old but to me there was beautiful flying.

00:16:42: it's just a dream.

00:16:45: so... That is how i got into it.

00:16:48: It was a passion straight away when I started flying.

00:16:52: I loved doing it And then had no studying or working hard until now.

00:17:00: basically

00:17:03: Yeah, and I mean the listeners would already they might have made their calculations when i said late nineteen nineties obviously you entered the aviation around a very challenging period to say at least.

00:17:20: How did that affect your pass?

00:17:23: Certainly im speaking of the nine eleven phase.

00:17:29: yeah so i started flying in ninety seven and then I worked as a flight instructor until uh... two thousand.

00:17:36: In nine eleven, i was joining my second airline actually doing my boy seven three-seven training type rate in training.

00:17:46: when nine eleven happened the first airline that work for it did go bankrupt but the second airline i joined survived at nine eleven.

00:17:57: so i'm quite lucky.

00:17:59: Yes, we were a charter operator and not heavily affected by nine eleven.

00:18:05: So I was quite lucky through that.

00:18:10: And then there wasn't crisis of two thousand eight twenty-nine and also they're.

00:18:16: I Was lucky to have joined the company which was healthy?

00:18:20: And managed to survive the Christ itself.

00:18:24: To me, the biggest hurdle was after I left US where most of my flight training and initial work experience as a flight instructor and general aviation pilot.

00:18:38: And i came back to Europe First of all did convert my licenses because then you could still do it privately.

00:18:46: actually It's very affordable process.

00:18:54: you only had to do one main exam, so it was a lot easier let's say in a way than that is today.

00:19:01: So I came back.

00:19:02: but then for a year i was unemployed because it was very difficult to get into the airline world if...you know..it was your first approach right?

00:19:12: Every week I used to knock on some airlines doors and introduce myself as well.

00:19:18: this is Guido my flight experience actually my mother's car and knocking on a few airlines doors weekly, on a weekly basis until after about a year of doing so it finally paid off.

00:19:35: And I was called by regional airline to attend the selection process... ...and they did hire me.

00:19:44: So that was let say the toughest part purchasing of achieving my career progression, let's say.

00:19:58: What helped you to stay focused during that time?

00:20:01: Because this is certainly for every pilot.

00:20:04: it's quite a nerve-wracking phase isn't it Gido?

00:20:13: It will be faced by many pilots and has been faced with many pilots And can be very demotivating Because you know, you have the experience.

00:20:22: You know, your skills are young and eager and motivated yet... ...you cannot get hired because of various reasons.

00:20:33: It can be very heavy or demotivating And it was to me but I wanted to get done.

00:20:47: I had my objective in front of me and kept going until... ...I achieved what i wanted to achieve.

00:20:55: Sometimes it will be difficult, sometimes the timing can be wrong with your career but you have to keep working hard.

00:21:04: Nobody would give you anything.

00:21:06: You really need work through your career At least most people And sooner or later You will be encountering some challenging times, but what's important is never to let go and keep insisting because if you keep working hard.

00:21:27: And being insistent on chasing your dream... ...you'll make it!

00:21:36: So I guess this was also a takeaway in hindsight from the phases where industry has been struggling?

00:21:44: to keep persistent and keep believing in your dream?

00:21:48: And fight on, so-to say.

00:21:52: Absolutely yes!

00:21:54: I was trying every possible...I didn't have a lot of money So i was trying any way to get a job wherever i could.

00:22:07: Yes..i never gave up.

00:22:10: I witnessed some people giving up at times but yeah, I never gave up because i really want to succeed and achieve my objective.

00:22:27: You just have to weather it out.

00:22:29: try everything you can.

00:22:31: don't expect things will happen cause they won´t do.

00:22:34: most of us work hard keep your focus clear then things WILL happen A month, it might take six months.

00:22:45: It may take a year but things will happen as long you keep working at and studying hard.

00:22:53: of course I was fortunate enough to have a career that is built step by step.

00:23:01: so i started on very small airplanes flight instructor general aviation.

00:23:04: then went into a small regional airline on a two-by-prope airplanes, then I went to National Charter Airline on Boeing seven three sevens.

00:23:15: So it was made of many various steps and while that was hard work the career progression was slower compared especially nowadays where you go from small train straight onto an airliner.

00:23:29: but at the same time every small step is big satisfaction And i felt like building something And I was looking forward to the next step as well.

00:23:40: So it's been a long path and It has been at times tough, very rewarding.

00:23:51: Actually most of time is very rewarding.

00:23:53: so if i look back with plenty of joy The sense of having witnessed full life

00:24:07: Yeah, I mean you have built up step by step an impressive career which also as we already covered it in the first minutes of interview led into instructing and being a examiner.

00:24:21: Kido what is the key difference between instructing & examining?

00:24:26: to keep right on topic here?

00:24:33: Well... When you are instructing, You have to do the best that you can To provide support for people in front of you.

00:24:49: If they need support and understand The best way is who you're facing And by understanding Who you've been in front Of you Can deliver a customized training provide support in a customized manner so you can maximize the service and the support that are provided to these professionals.

00:25:16: So your role is really to accompany, help this people improve as much they can.

00:25:25: As an examiner of course You represent your authority, you represent the company.

00:25:33: So you have to judge whether or not this individual is delivering a standard which is safe enough and satisfy the regulatory requirements that delivers a safe outcome in a safe product.

00:26:00: So you can still do that and at the same time a company, actually in this EBT system we are now utilizing.

00:26:17: The examiner is also a support figure because support meaning the pilots that he's examining or she is examining, to improve their skills further and to improve standards.

00:26:39: So again you are examining so have decide whether standard is good enough.

00:26:46: if it not they will be retrained brought up to a standard which satisfies the required safety standards.

00:26:57: Gido, allow me a question for all the pilots who are maybe listening now and certainly without asking you giving out any information.

00:27:08: that's may be under some previous standards.

00:27:11: But what other common weaknesses do observe even at advanced levels when doing your examinations?

00:27:25: Well... Some of the weaknesses One of the things that comes straight to my mind is not taking enough time.

00:27:39: So when you encounter a unexpected situation, You should take Enough time as appropriate depending on what kind of situations are facing.

00:27:53: obviously some situations give more times and others giving less time.

00:27:59: however assess the situation, and ensure that you understand exactly what we are facing.

00:28:10: And then gather as much information as you can with a time given to them deliver their best possible decision.

00:28:19: There is no strictly right or strictly wrong decision but there's more times it will take in.

00:28:27: assessing.

00:28:29: collecting data will translate into probably a better, more reformed decision.

00:28:36: So rush basically is one of the weaknesses I observe.

00:28:43: Communication is another fairly weak area at times.

00:28:49: Communication's extremely important not just within the flight deck but across the whole system.

00:28:55: so by communication ensuring that When you are given a message, You understand exactly what the messages and when deliver a message.

00:29:05: It was sure that The message has been received and clearly understood Many misunderstandings many problems arising in industry are caused by Poor or lack of communication.

00:29:21: So this is another thing communicate clearly with air traffic control your colleague With company structure with whomever you communicate.

00:29:30: ensure that the message is clear.

00:29:33: Whether you have to receive it or whether you are delivering, and then will allow you avoid a lot of misunderstandings extra work so on...

00:29:49: And just allow me stay in the realm of professional standards and mindset here.

00:29:56: how would you define professionalism?

00:29:59: In today's cockpit environment in twenty-twenty six.

00:30:04: So, I mean it's an open question.

00:30:07: you can certainly... You could speak for a hour about this question but how would you summarize?

00:30:17: Yes!

00:30:18: It is good question.

00:30:23: How do i define professionalism?

00:30:24: well look there are There are many that the profession is now nowadays and especially within airlines with in commercial organizations.

00:30:36: It's very very structured.

00:30:38: they're really normally very strict standards a very Well-written guidelines.

00:30:45: So there is not much room for let's call it creativity anymore, and sometimes you can feel like your doing a Routine work if you know what I mean.

00:30:57: however And with routine could come boredom or such things, which leads to then lowering of the standard professionalism.

00:31:08: I think that way be as professional as you can is always try and deliver the best product that you can.

00:31:16: so whether it's smoothness of flying, whether its achieving a mission completing flight in most obviously safe but economical manner You do the job properly for the company, you'll do a job properly to your passengers and customers.

00:31:34: So always aim for the best possible product.

00:31:39: of course safety comes first but then I don't know.

00:31:42: even sometimes riding in the back of some airplanes And breaking technique is not so comfortable To say it at least.

00:31:54: Well...you could be more careful on how you break or use the brakes.

00:32:00: There's a way and no way to brake, and passengers can feel it.

00:32:04: when you're taxing there are some abrupt braking or you make very smooth and deliver better products again.

00:32:12: these are small fine touches but You always find something to improve.

00:32:19: So

00:32:22: what I just heard is that a pilot could be There's always room for improvement.

00:32:31: Yes,

00:32:32: there is always room point for improvement of course yes and Always keep curiosity curious.

00:32:37: I mean we always have to keep updated Anyway because the job requires it.

00:32:42: but you can also look into additional publications.

00:32:45: You can look at now this plenty of stuff out their initial psychology or so many things that you could look at then which will Make your job more interesting most stimulating in The same time improve your background knowledge and I think make you a more awesome professional.

00:33:06: I mean, as you said we can talk about this for hours.

00:33:09: That's

00:33:14: so much to say!

00:33:14: As we did yesterday.

00:33:15: no... We didn't talk for hours but it was really.

00:33:18: yeah i know that your are a specialist in the mindset and yes.. You have to be because you're an instructor and examiner especially the mental part of your profession maybe even more than Just quote-unquote being a pilot.

00:33:41: Yes, absolutely especially when you start flying bigger airplanes with large crews and larger passenger numbers in the back.

00:33:52: And then one of the most challenging yet fascinating parts is managing people.

00:34:00: I find it really fascinating very interesting.

00:34:03: You can make a difference again how the mission is accomplished by managing people in an optimal manner.

00:34:17: It's really stunning what you can achieve with your team of people, if you know how to read them and who they are good at a common goal and as again, very good product.

00:34:38: It makes it big difference.

00:34:45: Gido if you allow some so to say guidance also inspiration hopefully certainly for aspiring pilots.

00:34:56: first little bit of critical question what misconceptions do young pilots often have about this career nowadays?

00:35:09: Yes, it's a bit of difficult question for me, Jürgen because I am not so much in touch with the very young pilots nowadays.

00:35:18: Ah

00:35:18: okay!

00:35:20: Because the candidates that i see normally are already quite experienced.

00:35:25: however here some things...I don't know.

00:35:29: maybe impression is that now days its seen as easy, comfortable career which will take you quickly to a good career achievements and economical achievements.

00:35:46: Which is true in part.

00:35:48: however it's still a very demanding career And does require a lot of motivation and dedication In my view because again like we just talked about it has, should be done as professionally we can.

00:36:07: It's not just...it is quite a demanding job because you have to always do at your highest possible level for obvious reasons.

00:36:21: first of all safety and there are a lot of responsibility in the hands.

00:36:27: so again for obvious reason And if you undertake this career, it has to be because you are sure a hundred percent that you want to do and go the whole way.

00:36:42: Because nowadays I know there are programs which take very rapidly from zero-to-hero.

00:36:47: basically so... ...I can be twenty or twenty one years old.

00:36:51: then in two years i could become first officer on a seven three seven and after another four five years I may be wrong on this but i can be a captain of the seven three seven.

00:37:02: so at twenty six, twenty-seven years old.

00:37:04: I'm a Captain On A Narrow Body Jet with hundred eighty people in The Back which is great!

00:37:11: But it doesn't mean that its something to be taken lightly...I don't know if im making any sense.

00:37:21: It makes a lot of sense.

00:37:23: So allow me here really, little bit an in-depth question what separates good pilot from truly reliable one?

00:37:36: What's the difference between juniors and so to say...

00:37:51: Normally young pilots will be very motivated, very eager and very good at executing procedures.

00:38:00: So they have a target because let's talk about first officers and senior experienced captains.

00:38:09: so the young first officers would be very good in achieving performing procedures.

00:38:16: It will be very efficient.

00:38:19: They study a lot, the brains can retain information Very efficiently.

00:38:22: so they read.

00:38:23: I remember my brain when i used to read a paragraph once and knew it almost by heart And nowadays its not like that anymore.

00:38:31: I think thats because of various reasons.

00:38:33: Its also because as you age You have more things normally To take care off during your normal day.

00:38:43: So your brain is busy maybe managing more thing When you are young and building your career, most of the attention is normally dedicated to achieving proficiency in you job.

00:38:55: What that was at least my case.

00:38:57: I think i've seen this as well with other people.

00:39:02: so they are very good and quick... And it's the same for me!

00:39:04: Very quick, very proficient, very knowledgeable ...and also getting into objective efficiently quickly Sometimes when flying with experienced captains you know, who work maybe at my current age and I would see them moving quite slowly.

00:39:24: And i was thinking well why is this movie so slow?

00:39:29: You don't understand something will come on!

00:39:33: Come out within the mind.

00:39:35: obviously yeah...I always respect that because there's a but be asking myself Why is it?

00:39:41: movies are so slow they just do it.

00:39:46: But then when I became a captain myself and faced many different situations, I realized... ...I then understood why they move so slowly.

00:39:57: Because as I mentioned to you at the beginning of this conversation They were taking that time to understand The situation around them To understand their whole picture And had more knowledge than me And retrieving his knowledge to apply it, whatever situation we're facing.

00:40:18: To work on the best possible solutions and that was... I realized only a few years later when i wasn't in their shoes.

00:40:29: so would say be confident of your means prepare study always apply yourself Be comfortable.

00:40:44: However, always be humble enough and keep enough humility to understand that there's Always people who can teach you something.

00:40:53: There are all these things That you could learn from the others.

00:40:56: So don't think here they're above the others.

00:40:58: just think that your good Do everything?

00:41:01: You came to me Good but always being ready to learn from From experiences and other people around you.

00:41:09: I would say this is a good attitude to take across your career, one's career and keep improving as you go.

00:41:20: Keep an open mindset.

00:41:22: or a successful long-term career in aviation?

00:41:27: This is so to say the takeaway I just got!

00:41:32: Am i on the right path here?

00:41:35: Yes absolutely, keeping up my mind... And also something else.

00:41:42: whenever there's a chance passing by, try to take it.

00:41:46: Don't wait if you let it go past and may never come back.

00:41:50: so don't let chances opportunities flyby without grabbing them.

00:41:57: You can always go back and say this is not for me.

00:42:00: I'd like to go back where i came from but once an opportunity has gone passed It May Never Come Back.

00:42:07: But yeah From the personal point of view Let's say personal attitude point of view.

00:42:15: Always work on yourself, be confident but like you said keep an open mind and accept that others may be better at you or some things And they have something to teach you You know?

00:42:33: Be ready to learn these things from other people.

00:42:36: Yeah Gido I think a main takeaway for this interview is really Keep on learning, keep improving and be willing to learn.

00:42:43: Be willing to improve.

00:42:45: also realize that no pilot is a perfect pilot.

00:42:49: there's always room for improvement.

00:42:54: Yes absolutely Jürgen!

00:42:58: Allow me one of the last questions I mean what continues to motivate you today?

00:43:08: You still have goals to achieve when looking into your future?

00:43:16: Yes, I do.

00:43:16: I have goals to achieve... ...I recently made a career change because it was time-to-do.

00:43:26: so exactly because of that reason for personal reasons as well but i combined the personal level with professional levels.

00:43:37: So need stimuli and new challenges.. ..so switched from airline flying to private flight and it has worked out great for me.

00:43:49: It is really exactly what I need.

00:43:53: so, making new objectives with myself again trying to learn your things jumping into other industries or branches of the same industry let's say this keeping me motivated on my job.

00:44:11: I'm learning, these last four years again have learned a lot of things.

00:44:18: I've tried at least A new discipline and type of operation has been very rewarding And interesting for me At the same time trying to optimize work-life balance.

00:44:34: I treasure my loved ones that are home make the best use of my work-life balance to spend time with you know, people that matter to me when I'm not working in the best possible times.

00:44:53: So this is another objective for the future to keep maintaining and improving if possible their work life balance as let's say i approach retirement

00:45:10: All I have to say.

00:45:11: it was a fantastic interview.

00:45:14: Thank you for every second and as we discussed yesterday, I support pilots and all the aviation candidates with the mental side of performance.

00:45:28: And i want to give or send you a little bit of thank-you For your time in conversation.

00:45:36: A small voucher afterwards I don't know, maybe you will need it in the future.

00:45:42: It's certainly optional and no cost or obligation but for a one-to-one coaching session with me whenever i'm useful to you would be great to speak again And if you need me as I said Maybe physical routines recovery or mental side I'll be there for you.

00:46:06: Or voucher is here.

00:46:10: Thank you, Jürgen.

00:46:11: That's a very kind of view and I will definitely make use of it!

00:46:17: Thank You Gido for the great interview.

00:46:19: It is also nice weather day in your place A beautiful rest of afternoon And thank you for joining AviationQuest to see!

00:46:30: Thank you Jürger, that was a pleasure and you too have a great day.

00:46:34: Enjoy your evening and hopefully we'll talk soon again.

00:46:39: Okay, and that is the end of this interview.

00:46:41: So how was it for you again?

00:46:44: Was it good?

00:46:44: This

00:46:45: April the ninth with an interview like these... Gido made my day!

00:46:55: Thank you once again to this incredible thoughtful conversation.

00:46:59: It's a real pleasure and honor as I already pointed out in the intro And Stefan also.

00:47:07: Yeah, it was I'd say a really adult mature and certainly super experienced aviation conversation.

00:47:18: Absolutely also from my side of course.

00:47:20: A big thank you to Gede for taking the time To talk to us And uh...to spend Time to give us his knowledge and experience.

00:47:31: And like I said before the interview started, it's a good insight into what is expected from an airline pilot these days and how you are evaluated.

00:47:44: How your role should be fulfilled in terms of... ...how you can become more professional or proficient

00:47:54: etc.,

00:47:55: all that stuff So think was really interesting.

00:47:59: Overall, I think the episode really provided a super realistic and also valuable perspective on aviation as a profession.

00:48:08: Built-on responsibility continuous development in all sort of personal accountability.

00:48:14: I think really Guido's insights here were invaluable hopefully also for lot of newcomers into world of aviation or people who maybe think about getting into the first certainly in the right seat of an airliner.

00:48:31: Yeah, absolutely so.

00:48:33: write from the get-go.

00:48:34: if you get to industry like before even start your job at a job interview.

00:48:42: they will be looking for exactly qualities that were just mentioned and discussed in this interview.

00:48:49: If there can see those qualities with you then your chances of getting that job are much higher.

00:48:57: So the more you understand about what is expected of airline pilots today, The better You're going to be prepared for a career and Of course For that fateful Job interview.

00:49:12: Yeah Step by step I mean it's really.

00:49:17: It Is A Career That Demands A Lot Of Effort And Also A Lot Support.

00:49:24: Yeah, I mean if i can be of support for you the coaching button is on the home page.

00:49:30: just click on it.

00:49:31: and The first conversation with me.

00:49:34: Is always completely free and without obligation.

00:49:38: But yeah enough about me?

00:49:40: I think Stefan we are looking forward for more guests, especially more guest like Gido.

00:49:47: This could really be... Yeah I mean this was also the dream of our podcast concept from speaking off-the-get go from the beginning on when we started our conversation.

00:49:57: i think it was a lot.

00:49:59: yeah..I don't know!

00:50:01: It's been longer than one year ago but um it built up that we want to have live and tape conversations long form.

00:50:14: Yeah, we've experienced people like Guido.

00:50:18: So in that sense I think you can say we achieved our goals so far right?

00:50:23: Because there is a long list of guests who either have interviewed or are about to interview... ...so i think we did good job!

00:50:34: If i may say it myself

00:50:37: yeah Even though certainly everybody is welcome, but especially I think guests like Gido today they really...I mean.

00:50:47: They are rare interviews on the internet and i love to be part of a project that gives yeah Really the possibility to offer long-form podcasts Like this.

00:51:03: But it's already getting a little bit hot in studio here Stefan Temperature rising And like, subscribe follow us is things YouTubers normally say.

00:51:15: I'm not a YouTuber so i leave this out of the podcast but... I will have you for couple minutes because we already set up some new appointments.

00:51:30: Yes!

00:51:30: We had great upcoming interviews already in the calendar, there will be super experienced aviators but also newcomers and yeah I think our podcast is really worth to follow.

00:51:46: And if you want leave us a comment as i said at the beginning linkedin it's good place!

00:51:52: But also the comment section of the youtube channel of the podcast.

00:51:57: once again aviation quest podcast.

00:52:02: This is how you can find us on YouTube and certainly there's also the Discord server.

00:52:09: Thank You, I mean from my side Stefan for your time And one more time thank you Guido and thank you dear listeners very much For joining us here at Aviation Quest to see stories from above.

00:52:26: It has been a pleasure

00:52:29: Yeah, also from my side.

00:52:30: Thank you to everyone who is listening to the podcast To all the people that are supporting us People that drop by on a discord server.

00:52:38: So yeah big thank you to every one and yeah We look forward to seeing you in the next one.

00:52:43: until then All the best bye-bye!

00:52:52: aviation-quest.cc.

00:52:59: We appreciate your time and support, And we'd love to have you back for the next episode.

00:53:11: Until then stay safe Stay curious Keep your passion for aviation flying

00:53:17: high.